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Respectfully submitted --[[User:ThePlaz|Plaz]] 23:06, 21 December 2006 (EST)
 
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Since you changed my entire organization for the comments, I wanted to make it obvious who made it because it was a very important post. I disagree with the teacher thing. I think it will be best to give Doc to essay and then Cobb so Cobb is grading it. It would be smarter to give him our best copy possible at the time so he could give us advice on how to make it perfect when its great (as a result of Doc's editing). I would rather have Doc move it from good to great because Cobb is the only one who can move it from great to perfect. About the debate, you have not allotted time for media supplement creation which needs a good amount of time. We also have off of school on the fifteenth and we can't give it to the teachers one day before it is due. They just wouldn't be able to do it especially at the end of the semester. If I am editing the film, then it will probably take me a weekend in After Effects to make it look nice and what not and to set all the keyframes and render. In total, I will need about 20 hours spread over 2-4 days. I am going to contact Greg and Jeff about what they need to have done on winter break but we still have bad topics. We need to fix them according our new definition of globalization.<br/><H5 align="center">David A. Groff<br/>Student
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Since you changed my entire organization for the comments, I wanted to make it obvious who made it because it was a very important post. I disagree with the teacher thing. I think it will be best to give Doc to essay and then Cobb so Cobb is grading it. It would be smarter to give him our best copy possible at the time so he could give us advice on how to make it perfect when its great (as a result of Doc's editing). I would rather have Doc move it from good to great because Cobb is the only one who can move it from great to perfect. About the debate, you have not allotted time for media supplement creation which needs a good amount of time. We also have off of school on the fifteenth and we can't give it to the teachers one day before it is due. They just wouldn't be able to do it especially at the end of the semester. If I am editing the film, then it will probably take me a weekend in After Effects to make it look nice and what not and to set all the keyframes and render. In total, I will need about 20 hours spread over 2-4 days. I am going to contact Greg and Jeff about what they need to have done on winter break but we still have bad topics. We need to fix them according our new definition of globalization.<br/><H5 align="center">   David A. Groff<br/>Student

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World Cultures Comparison Project Instructions

Group members please add your name and this: ~~~~ after your comments so it it easy to sort out who said what when. Thanks Plaz 20:47, 7 December 2006 (EST)

See also Help:Wiki Markup Cheatsheet --Plaz 12:40, 17 December 2006 (EST)

Contents

Topic Brainstorm

See World Cultures Comparison Project/Topic Brainstorm

2nd Brainstorm: Globalization

Title

The Export of Artificial Wants

  • ??or too focused
  • or too crazy
  • What does that mean?
    • it may be clever but if I can't figure it out or Greg can't figure it out, then we shouldn't use it. - Groff
      • That's the point. (Well it was more of joke, if you don't want to use it) --Plaz 20:47, 7 December 2006 (EST)

Pos/Neg

  • pos:
    • better standards of living
    • more equitable distribution of wealth
    • ending harsh global customs
      • shria law
      • etc.
    • outsourcing makes jobs
    • good in long term
  • neg:
    • putting too much on them?
    • bad diet?
      • China
    • exporting artifical wants
    • plundering and profits
    • ?talk about imperialism??
      • India
      • ?or only focus on present?

Format

  • debate, it seems would work best
    • Is Globalization ultimately good or bad?
    • each person gets topic
    • that way they research that 1 topic
    • they write a page (or so) about that topic
      • Plaz or some one glues it all together
    • then they are experts in that for debate
    • this has advantage because it compartmentalizes the work, so it can be easily split up
  • video????
    • what would it be of though????
    • the video could express the different relationships between the different cultures. Things would be represented in metaphors of course. Us as actors would represent different countries and with a clever script, this would be rather effective. This is good because it would reduce public speaking which Greg has had an unfortunate past with and seems to grasp the interest of students based on my past experiences in English with my Apartheid movie and Math with my Orchard Hideout Video. -- Groff

Dave, you still have my Mughal empire notes. I need them back on monday before cobb comes into the room, so i have at least like 2 minutes to study them.- Greg

May I recommend my notes: Page 58 - Indian Ancient Civilization Notes Instructions, Page 2 - Maurya Empire and Small Kingdoms, Page 3 - Gupta Empire and Muslim Empire, Page 4 - Mughal Empire--Plaz 20:45, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Cultures

  • Latin America (req.)
  • Japan (food)
  • India (?imperialism)
  • Middle East (sharia)
  • ???

Sources

Comments

Globalization: Good or Bad, is a good idea and we could use a video, but if we have a video, than we should definitely have a debate too. Don't worry Dave, that was just a fluke public speaking experience, i did fine with ms. jackson's 40 minute presentation (heck, got the best grade of my group). Besides this is only 20 minutes, so i'll be good. But yeah, we could each pick a country/region or topic involving globalization, research it, become experts, and make a heated debate using the information we gathered. We could each have pros and cons; or 2 of us could do pros, and 2 do cons if we're doing globalization as a whole. - Greg

We could first explain our research, show a video (if we want), and then have the debate, that should take up 20 minutes. But we still have plenty of time, so let's not worry too much about not getting the Comparisons project done. -Greg

Oh yeah, the newspaper idea is EXCELLENT. Let's use the newspaper as a creative handout, explaining our information. We could each write an editorial, that simply summarizes our research, and slip an opinion in the article if we want to. But we'll have to decide what our front page should look like, and make sure it covers all aspects of our project. Maybe a before/after map of globalization's effect on different cultures and regions. It'll be creative, I highly doubt anyone else would do it, and cobb would like the newspaper too.- Greg (long, but more to come as we get into the project!)


I actually think it might be good to end with the video for two reasons

  1. It has a determinable amount of time which can be used to meet a time requirement and end with an ending to a movie that won't be something just like: "...and that was our presentation". Instead we would have a good ending that concluded the presentation efficiently.
  2. If the movie is good (assuming that it is good) we can end the presentation with a bang. Public speaking ettiquette clearly states that the most important elements of a presenation are the beginning and end. If the video is good then it should end the presentation so that no matter what Greg can think of to ruin the project public speaking wise. The ending will be good.

P.S. I am not serious Greg. However, your past is. -Groff

Yeh I know, my past was bad Dave, but trust me, I'm over that. but right, if the video is GOOD, we could end the presentation on a strong note. It would be better than, "that's our presentation," but we still need to make it clear to the audience/cobb that the video is our end, like "and now we'll conclude with a video," or something like that.- Greg
I agree ending with a video on a strong note is good. However, should we do all 3 things (debate, video, newspaper) and the required paper?? That would seem like too much. If you read the directions they don't mention class handouts; only paper (standard) and oral presentation/video. Thus it can be half/half with video and debate. But what does the video show? Some ideas:
  • act out changes before/after
    • requires acting
  • news show talking about new fast food place opening
  • protest WTO meetings
  • collection of news clips
  • what else???


I can script video off of youtube and possibly google video put preferably youtube if you tell me the url for it and then be able to edit it when necessary. I am content with no newspaper because I guess we don't need a handout and it would cost about $150 to print it on real tabloid newspaper (to print it on gloss, it would be $25-$50 + ink). The script will have to be a united effort. Greg, you don't say what you last said about "now we'll conclude with a video" because that it is a little knick that doesn't need to be discussed in the preliminary stage. Greg, I understand that your problem has gone away, but the past really never leaves. -Groff

I can convert YouTube and Google Videos too. That would be easier (and more professional) if we mix together already done videos. Also, someone could use it as part of their argument in the debate. As for scripting the debate - that is more work and may lead to a duller debate. On the other hand, if people aren't experts in what they are arguing, it will fall apart fast. Maybe just a list of qu and outlines of view and then go from their. Or practice a few times and then just use that experience (plus an outline) to go. Word for word reading can suck the excitement out of it. Plaz 16:38, 8 December 2006 (EST)


Plaz, you read into things much too much. I was talking about the script for the movie, not the debate. About the youtube/google video I meant download so you could import into an editing tool like Movie Maker or your aspirational Premiere, ha ha (saw the unboxing video). If you want to invest a lot of money into this, I would go with the Adobe Video Production Suite that I use at my cousin's studio that has Adobe After Effects, Premiere, DVD Encore, Photoshop, Flash and more (see http://www.adobe.com/products/bundles/video_bundle.html). The whole idea about having the video just use professional clips is that that tends to be boring unless you have a back-story to fall onto. If you ever watch CNN, channel 50, they use a lot of media from other stations but only use it to supplement their own show, not create it. This is the point where you are either making things look profesional or you are making them look like an average kid did. Mr. Cobb would want something that shows what we learned in a better design and what-not. Gotta go study for India. See ya. -Groff

Sure Groff, I would be glad to use the Video Bundle (if you would give me the $2,099 it costs). I agree that using clips is boring. So what can we do for the video? --Plaz 17:20, 9 December 2006 (EST)


I told you that I have access to the Adobe Video Bundle and can use the video programs to edit properly and create a good film for the class to see. We could also write a script and since you told me you have access to a good camera, we can use that to film us. We could represent our globalization ideas through metaphors (i.e. say we think globalization improves technology, we could have an actor be living life and then another coming and helping and showing him somthing new. Using my editing and a clever script with good acting (*cough Greg *cough), we can effectively use a video. Also, could you tell me what the names are of those guys who play the instruments and their songs. I didn't write them down that day because I wasn't sure what he was saying. Thanks a lot. P.S. You can email me at Cooldaveg73@aol.com. Thanks again P.P.S. Plaz, you could always do like me and get beta versions and do reports for Adobe. It's free and easy. -Groff


I understand that the debate is the type of presentation that Mr. Cobb suggested on page 65 of the notebook, but it is relatively vague and open. In my experiences with presentations, people like me and Greg tend to just offer a minimal amount and go way under time even if we practice. People like you Plaz tend to really elaborate and offer good insight but then bore the class, and people like Jeff do nothing. If at all possible, I think we should add another element to the presentation if at all possible. -Groff

Then how 'bout a 10-10 minute time split. I think we could do it. Does it have to be greater then 20 minutes or would 15-17 also work.. We can defently make this work, especailly if we fill part of the debate time with pre-preparred introductory statements and I prod people for answers. Do you have any better suggestions? --Plaz 18:27, 12 December 2006 (EST)


I don't think we could do 15-17 split because I talked to some kids from last year and they said they had 30-minute presenations! We should ask Mr. Cobb before we go any further and we should do it as a group sometime after class. Peace up, A-town. -Groff

All right. Let's do that.--Plaz 22:21, 12 December 2006 (EST)

Outline

  • Proposal--Plaz 21:32, 11 December 2006 (EST)

Video

Globalization Intro

  • ~5 min
  • introduces what it is and different definitions
  • gives short history
  • done in uber-documentary format
    • real deep announcer voice
    • like in Dodgeball movie
  • mix of old? and new (we film) clips

Debate

Then debate

  • ~15 min
  • each person specializes in topic

Pro

  • economic prospective (plaz or groff only please!)
    • free trade
    • most efficient
    • are going to be learning this is a few weeks in class
  • stats support
  • ending harsh sharia pratices
    • middle east
  • jobs
    • usa to India

Con

  • China
    • diet
    • see fast food nation book
      • i have it and will lend it to whoever does this
  • exporting artificial wants
    • in general
  • less job security
  • destroying culture
  • latin america
    • www.ilo.org/public/english/bureau/integration/download/publicat/4_3_208_wcsdg-wp-23.pdf

I agree w/Dave that theres a 90% change at least 1 of us will undershoot their part by like 1-2 mins. in our debate or introduction. But remember, we can always come up with a 1-2 min. rant on the spot during the debate to make up for lost time.-Greg

Haahah right, lets leave the main and specific economics explanation to dave and plaz, the macro guys. I think jeff or i would screw it up if we started talking too far into the economics topic.-Greg

Dont worry Dave, i havent acted in a while, but i'll pull it off 4 the video. Really, just worry about the clever script, thats what cobb cares more about. He also cares more about getting the main point across in our video to the audience. Cobb will just find the bad acting amusing and laugh at it.- Greg, 12 December 2006

We shouldn't be worrying about time limits now, I think. Once we have most of it done,, we can look at where we are add and we might add topics/points to the debate. Our topic is broad enough that we could add stuff if we are short on time. So who will be pro and who will be con?--(Plaz in school)147.31.4.47 12:02, 13 December 2006 (EST)


I am not so worried about time as I am about lack of content. Maybe we could add something just to add more variety and content to the presentation without making it busy. I would also like to animate the debate a little bit. If I figure out how to make Flash presentations, I have Macromedia Flash 8, which does the cool video presentations. We could use this to supplement the debate because let's face it, Greg will feint if he talks to long. Jeff doesn't want to and will not be able to talk too long. I don't want to talk for too long. And we get enough of the Plaz on H-Vision so the debate must be supplemented and it would be highly useful to add one more visual aid to our presentation in order to explain our topic. -Groff

Good idea. Extra video media will help to structure our presentation. --Plaz 22:41, 13 December 2006 (EST)

People

-agreed in class 12/13/2006 --Plaz 22:41, 13 December 2006 (EST)

Plaz

  • pro
  • economics (free trade, efficiencies)
  • harsh sharia practices

Jeff

  • pro
  • stats support
  • outsourcing jobs

Greg

  • con
  • china's diet
  • Latin American case study (whatever you find)
  • (addition made by Groff) effects on environmental situations (i.e. pollution, etc.)

Groff

  • con
  • exporting artificial wants (materialism)
  • less job security
  • destroying culture

Paper

Pro: Economics (Plaz)

See World Cultures Comparison Project/Pro: Economics


Further Comments

Plaz, I think we kind of have the definition of globalization wrong. The definition is like bringing industries to the global scale and making countries more interdependent among another like creating a complex of economic, trade, social, technological, cultural and political interrelationships (wikipedia/globalization). I found this out while reading http://globalization.org So all of the categories we have are more like imperialism and foreign influence. I think Mr. Cobb wanted us to do more globalization and less of the foreign influence. Email me at Cooldaveg73@aol.com if you have anything urgent. I want to get topics out by Friday and finish preliminary research by mid-winter break and bring each of our elements together by the end of winter break. On the day we get back, we can give it all to me or Plaz (whoever is a better writer; it can be Greg or Jeff too if they want and feel that they can) and one of us will bring it into an essay and finalize it via group effort, Ms. Ward, Doctor Reilly, maybe Nachef and lastly Cobb. After we finish that preliminary essay before it goes to our editors, me, Greg, and Jeff will work on the script for the movie to be finished by January 10th roughly. Plaz, I want you to structure the debate and add any cool ideas or effects to the table. I could make video for the debate as well. Once the movie is filmed, edited, and mastered; the paper going through our editing and our teachers, and the debate structured, we will practice presenting the week/weekend before our presentation.-Groff

image:Final_Project_schedule.pdf-Groff

This PDF shows the progress I have made thus far in scheduling. I'm not sure it is the correct date for presentations, but it definitely gives us a good frame of reference in terms of time.
-Groff

It's double sided. In my essay draft I am working on (see above) I mostly talk about the definition you have just used. But the other side plays a part too. In opening up trade we are sending our culture abroad (for better or worse). This is the main negative rebuttal. As for the essay, I think maybe mid-way check in 3/4 to end of winter break with the essay parts due the first Friday in Jan. Then combine by Monday - edit till wed then go around getting feedback. Over break we must brainstorm movie. Film it first 1 weekend back. This will give you or me lead time to edit, etc. Any time remaining will go towards debate preparation. --Plaz 23:01, 20 December 2006 (EST)
Teachers will not be happy if we give them our essay and say "give it back to me tomorrow." Not only that but the script will be easier to get done once the initial essay is done. Also, I alloted time on weekdays to edit the essay. You told me you wanted a weekend. It doesn't work with the schedule. If you ask me, the debate is the easiest and least-time for preparation aspect. A debate is the discussion of the essay with media. Judging by that sly comment at the end about "you or me" doing video editing, you can edit the video for the debate and I will do the main video. The debate is really your thing structure-wise because you seem to like it and suggested it and such things. I am the big fan of the video and Greg and Jeff will probably be better in the script creation rather than structuring debate but they can choose that. Create a new schedule to meet your ideas for time allocation; you see mine and you can do it in Excel or whatever (I'm sure you know how-try not to eliminate categories, but feel free to add some) and post it up for me to see. Then we just need to start.--David A. Groff (Student)
Plus on your schedule, I believe, you have budgeted for 1 teacher at a time. This is not nessassry, I believe; multiple people can look at it and we collate changes/suggestions afterwards. And I wasn't meaning to be sly about who will do the video editing. We just hadn't decided this yet, and I know Jeff and Greg aren't going to do it. But whatever, we will see who does what video later. So schedule:
  • Essay
    • Check in/outline:1/1/07
    • Essay Parts: 1/5/07
    • Essay Together: 1/8/07
    • Teacher Review/ grammar Review: 1/15/07
  • Movie
    • Rough Outline: 12/26/06
    • Storyboard: 1/2/07
    • Script/Finer Idea: 1/5/07
    • Film: 1/6 or 1/7
    • Edit: 1/12/07
    • Finishing Touches??: 1/16
  • Debate
    • Argument Outline: 1/8
    • Detailed Supports: 1/12
    • Put it together (everyone in person): 1/13 or 1/14
    • Practice?: 1/15 or later depending on when we go

Respectfully submitted --Plaz 23:06, 21 December 2006 (EST)

Since you changed my entire organization for the comments, I wanted to make it obvious who made it because it was a very important post. I disagree with the teacher thing. I think it will be best to give Doc to essay and then Cobb so Cobb is grading it. It would be smarter to give him our best copy possible at the time so he could give us advice on how to make it perfect when its great (as a result of Doc's editing). I would rather have Doc move it from good to great because Cobb is the only one who can move it from great to perfect. About the debate, you have not allotted time for media supplement creation which needs a good amount of time. We also have off of school on the fifteenth and we can't give it to the teachers one day before it is due. They just wouldn't be able to do it especially at the end of the semester. If I am editing the film, then it will probably take me a weekend in After Effects to make it look nice and what not and to set all the keyframes and render. In total, I will need about 20 hours spread over 2-4 days. I am going to contact Greg and Jeff about what they need to have done on winter break but we still have bad topics. We need to fix them according our new definition of globalization.
David A. Groff
Student
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