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==Bugs==
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Hi, I work on the Click-to-Run product team and would to hear a lot more, besides to printing option,
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as to what you are experiencing and is broken. This is just Beta 1 and like any Beta 1 product can be a
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little rough around the edges, so we want to hear what is broken and what you believe works.
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Thanks,
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Bob {MSFT]
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Sure.  Thank you for contacting me.
 
Sure.  Thank you for contacting me.
  
Virtual (as in not a physical printer, not C2R) OneNote 2010 printer not visible on Win 7 x64 or  
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*Virtual (as in not a physical printer, not C2R) OneNote 2010 printer not visible on Win 7 x64 or  
 
Vista x32; what you posted below; Daniel Escapa says fixed in current internal builds
 
Vista x32; what you posted below; Daniel Escapa says fixed in current internal builds
Inking on tablet devices (confirmed by ~5 other people onenote newsgroup “How do you ink”;  
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*Inking on tablet devices (confirmed by ~5 other people onenote newsgroup “How do you ink”;  
 
check it out) in both Onenote and composing in Outlook; what’s weird is that inking works on  
 
check it out) in both Onenote and composing in Outlook; what’s weird is that inking works on  
 
my non-tablet desktop with a mouse; this is a major show stopper
 
my non-tablet desktop with a mouse; this is a major show stopper
Starting Outlook when offline on a Win 7 x64 desktop (product has been installed and open for  
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*Starting Outlook when offline on a Win 7 x64 desktop (product has been installed and open for  
 
hours on a fast connection) fails occasionally.  My Win 7 RC x64 occasionally does not connect  
 
hours on a fast connection) fails occasionally.  My Win 7 RC x64 occasionally does not connect  
 
to the network on boot.  I must go to network settings and turn the adaptor off and on.  This  
 
to the network on boot.  I must go to network settings and turn the adaptor off and on.  This  
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this by pulling my network cable, but Outlook started offline no problems.  Very weird for both  
 
this by pulling my network cable, but Outlook started offline no problems.  Very weird for both  
 
the Win 7 and Outlook flaws.
 
the Win 7 and Outlook flaws.
In OneNote 2010, when you have Onenote 2007 installed and use the clipping feature FROM  
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*In OneNote 2010, when you have Onenote 2007 installed and use the clipping feature FROM  
 
2010, it will actually open 2007 and paste the clipping in there (reported in the OneNote  
 
2010, it will actually open 2007 and paste the clipping in there (reported in the OneNote  
 
newsgroup “Regressions and Suggestions”)
 
newsgroup “Regressions and Suggestions”)
OneNote 2010 fails to register with search service after prompting for admin credentials on my  
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*OneNote 2010 fails to register with search service after prompting for admin credentials on my  
 
Vista x32 tablet.  I don’t think I have this issue on my Win 7 x64 desktop.
 
Vista x32 tablet.  I don’t think I have this issue on my Win 7 x64 desktop.
Outlook breaks the Windows 7 taskbar by opening a separate taskbar item, instead of using  
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*Outlook breaks the Windows 7 taskbar by opening a separate taskbar item, instead of using  
 
the pinned shortcut.  I think someone said this was fixed later.
 
the pinned shortcut.  I think someone said this was fixed later.
Startup seems to be slow
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*Startup seems to be slow
I have heard of various problems with add-ins on Outlook.  Don’t have a problem though since  
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*I have heard of various problems with add-ins on Outlook.  Don’t have a problem though since  
 
I just use 2 exchange accounts.   
 
I just use 2 exchange accounts.   
BTW something you guys do right:  In Win 7 x64 RC when you start menu search “Mail” for the  
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*BTW something you guys do right:  In Win 7 x64 RC when you start menu search “Mail” for the  
 
Mail (ie Outlook) control panel – the 2007 Mail control panel DOES NOT show up.  You must go  
 
Mail (ie Outlook) control panel – the 2007 Mail control panel DOES NOT show up.  You must go  
 
into the control panel and search for it.  Only the 2010 virtual Mail panel shows up in start  
 
into the control panel and search for it.  Only the 2010 virtual Mail panel shows up in start  
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-Michael Plasmeier
 
-Michael Plasmeier
  
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Hi, I work on the Click-to-Run product team and would to hear a lot more, besides to printing option,
 
as to what you are experiencing and is broken. This is just Beta 1 and like any Beta 1 product can be a
 
little rough around the edges, so we want to hear what is broken and what you believe works.
 
  
Thanks,
 
  
Bob
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==Use Case==
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Am I missing something???
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Let's take the case of a netbook user without a CD drive.  You can't easily use your Office CD.  It seems that some are suggesting C2R for this case.  However, why can a netbook user not be able to download the standard MSI file and install Office like that? 
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Others have recommended selling USB sticks preloaded with Office.  I think that Microsoft should stick to selling 1 package of Office.  In it should be a CD and a product key.  If you don't have a CD drive you can go to a free Microsoft website, enter your product key, and get a .MSI download.  Actually can't you do this with a trial version???
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In sum, netbooks sans CD drives not a clear C2R usecase, and Microsoft should make sure to put download instructions (special website or trial version) in the retail box.
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-Michael Plasmeier http://theplaz.com

Revision as of 04:32, 28 July 2009

Bugs

Hi, I work on the Click-to-Run product team and would to hear a lot more, besides to printing option, as to what you are experiencing and is broken. This is just Beta 1 and like any Beta 1 product can be a little rough around the edges, so we want to hear what is broken and what you believe works.

Thanks,

Bob {MSFT]


Sure. Thank you for contacting me.

  • Virtual (as in not a physical printer, not C2R) OneNote 2010 printer not visible on Win 7 x64 or

Vista x32; what you posted below; Daniel Escapa says fixed in current internal builds

  • Inking on tablet devices (confirmed by ~5 other people onenote newsgroup “How do you ink”;

check it out) in both Onenote and composing in Outlook; what’s weird is that inking works on my non-tablet desktop with a mouse; this is a major show stopper

  • Starting Outlook when offline on a Win 7 x64 desktop (product has been installed and open for

hours on a fast connection) fails occasionally. My Win 7 RC x64 occasionally does not connect to the network on boot. I must go to network settings and turn the adaptor off and on. This has happened on two RC 7 x64 desktops one a Dell and the other an HP; never on any other machine or OS in the house/network. When this happens Outlook does not seem to start and gives some message about being offline and referencing virtualization. I tried to reproduce this by pulling my network cable, but Outlook started offline no problems. Very weird for both the Win 7 and Outlook flaws.

  • In OneNote 2010, when you have Onenote 2007 installed and use the clipping feature FROM

2010, it will actually open 2007 and paste the clipping in there (reported in the OneNote newsgroup “Regressions and Suggestions”)

  • OneNote 2010 fails to register with search service after prompting for admin credentials on my

Vista x32 tablet. I don’t think I have this issue on my Win 7 x64 desktop.

  • Outlook breaks the Windows 7 taskbar by opening a separate taskbar item, instead of using

the pinned shortcut. I think someone said this was fixed later.

  • Startup seems to be slow
  • I have heard of various problems with add-ins on Outlook. Don’t have a problem though since

I just use 2 exchange accounts.

  • BTW something you guys do right: In Win 7 x64 RC when you start menu search “Mail” for the

Mail (ie Outlook) control panel – the 2007 Mail control panel DOES NOT show up. You must go into the control panel and search for it. Only the 2010 virtual Mail panel shows up in start menu search. I have Office 2007 and Office 2010 C2R installed. I hope your Win 7 team fixed this. Both show up on Vista x86 start menu search with 2007 Ultimate and 2010 C2R installed.

My main concern is that C2R does not seem to be for me. I don’t think that installing Office is much of a problem. Who is this product for? Companies who don’t want to run updates on each computer? Consumers?

It is because I don’t see how this product is for me combined with the frustration that these bugs which I discover are only in the C2R. I see why you want to get people to test C2R; however testing both 2010 and click to run is frustrating because I don’t know if it is a bug in Office or its click to run application. Perhaps running both normal MSI and C2R Office side by side could help us better beta test. This way we would know where to address issues.

These are all the issues I could find, if I find anything more in the future, I will post it in that app’s newsgroup.

Finally, In that statement you reference, I was perhaps too harsh from the frustration I described above of every issue I was sending to Daniel Escapa was C2R only and I apologize. Let me know if there is anything else you want me to test.

-Michael Plasmeier



Use Case

Am I missing something???

Let's take the case of a netbook user without a CD drive. You can't easily use your Office CD. It seems that some are suggesting C2R for this case. However, why can a netbook user not be able to download the standard MSI file and install Office like that?

Others have recommended selling USB sticks preloaded with Office. I think that Microsoft should stick to selling 1 package of Office. In it should be a CD and a product key. If you don't have a CD drive you can go to a free Microsoft website, enter your product key, and get a .MSI download. Actually can't you do this with a trial version???

In sum, netbooks sans CD drives not a clear C2R usecase, and Microsoft should make sure to put download instructions (special website or trial version) in the retail box.

-Michael Plasmeier http://theplaz.com